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melissaparish
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Posted: Wednesday October 19th, 2005 07:32 pm |
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One of the most common foods we hear of causing dumping is chicken! Especially early in the process, dense meats can tend to be drier and can cause discomfort or dumping. A great source of protein is fish . . any fish. Not only is it light, but it's packed with protein and tends to be easy on the pouch (especially in the early stages of food re-entry).
A good rule of thumb is, whatever food choices you make, first think of it as fuel. You wouldn't put junk in the gas tank of your car so don't put junk in your body either. Reach for the protein first. Pay attention to how your body reacts. If you start feeling discomfort . . . stop. That's your body telling you this food is the wrong one or too much or too fast. We've spent so many years ignoring our body signals, it's time to relearn them and know when to eat for fuel instead of eating out of boredom or for comfort. That food isn't going to hug you or hold you or laugh or cry with you, but it sure can wrap layers of fat around you!
Make the most of the 12 - 24 month window of opportunity after surgery to learn and develop new eating habits. By making a concerted effort, you'll develop habits that will carry you forward and you'll feel so much better for it.
 Melissa & Dan
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anrcandy
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Posted: Thursday February 12th, 2009 09:56 pm |
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I am scheduled for surgery May 5 . I went to my 1st nutrition appointment this week and I was over whelmed with the stages diet the lack of variety for the forst 5 weeks and I am not sure if I can do it.Can anyone help me. liquids and protein shakes is the only thing i can eat?
I hear whey protein taste disqusting or at least it is an aquired taste can anyone confirm and offer suggestion?
i dont think I have a problem with rearranging liquid drinking but the chewing and the lack of variety and no alcohol
HELP is it true I must give up alcohol altogther and chewing gum?
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Melissa Parish
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| Joined: | Saturday October 22nd, 2005 |
| Location: | Tampa, Florida USA |
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Posted: Thursday February 12th, 2009 10:24 pm |
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First thing we are always concerned about is when post-ops are so worried about what they're giving up instead of what they're gaining. Remember, the foods and the alcohol haven't done you any favors to this point, have they? This is a whole new start and takes a fresh new approach to what you eat and drink.
On the post-op eating plans . . every surgeon is different. Ask 1000 different surgeons and you'll get 1000 different plans. The common thread though is to remember that pouch is in a baby stage and needs time to heal. You don't want to be putting dense, bulky foods in there while you're healing. For us, by day 15 we were allowed to have things like soft grilled fish. Delicious and high in protein and very satisfying.
One thing we learned is the importance of flavor . . whether you're having a cup of soup or a small plate of food. Even simple broth can be made to taste great with the addition of herbs and spices. Liquid doesn't mean it has to be bland.
It'll all be worth the short term sacrifice you're making. Just think of what lies ahead!
-Melissa & Dan
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Bridget
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Posted: Friday February 13th, 2009 05:10 am |
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Hi,
I am 4 weeks out and have lost 25 pounds. I can so relate to how you feel; I had the same feelings and concerns. I have to tell you that it is easier than it seems and once you start losing the weight it is motivating too. The thought of no alcohol was awful for me but truthfully I am not missing it because the thought of it makes me nausea right now. As far as the chewing goes, sugar free popsicles are great for that and sometimes I would just chew food and spit it out. I know this is not the best but it satisfied me.
There are a lot of different protein shakes out there and different ways to get protein. When you are on the full liquids part you can have sugar free jello and sugar free puddings and those are good. It took me a year to get up the nerve because I was worried but boy do I feel better already.
Go for it! You can do it!!!
Bridget
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anrcandy
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Posted: Friday February 13th, 2009 06:21 pm |
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thanks bridget
I am going to my nutrition appointments and they are not answering my questions and think that I am not ready for the surgery because I ask questions about what to eat if this is a life style change i should be able to ask all the questions I want so I can know what to do for the rest of my life
Now I am just trying to see what works in those first 5 weeks. My surgery isntlike until May 5 however I am trying to learn all I can.
Can anyone give suggestions on how to mix protein without using milk I do not drink milk or eat cottage cheese and that seems to be mainly what we can use and mainly what people have?
can anyone new post op give me like an idea of what an average days is like for you?
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anrcandy
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Posted: Friday February 13th, 2009 06:21 pm |
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thanks bridget
I am going to my nutrition appointments and they are not answering my questions and think that I am not ready for the surgery because I ask questions about what to eat if this is a life style change i should be able to ask all the questions I want so I can know what to do for the rest of my life
Now I am just trying to see what works in those first 5 weeks. My surgery isntlike until May 5 however I am trying to learn all I can.
Can anyone give suggestions on how to mix protein without using milk I do not drink milk or eat cottage cheese and that seems to be mainly what we can use and mainly what people have?
can anyone new post op give me like an idea of what an average days is like for you?
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Melissa Parish
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| Joined: | Saturday October 22nd, 2005 |
| Location: | Tampa, Florida USA |
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Posted: Friday February 13th, 2009 07:50 pm |
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Anrcandy:
We're seeing a common occurrence with your posts that you ask a question but don't go back to the same thread for the answers. We know you're getting used to the board and thought it would make it easier and less frustrating to have that bit of info. You can also check the box at the bottom of your post that says "Notify me by e-mail when replies are posted to this topic" That way you'll know when someone has posted in response to you. It won't take long and you'll get the hang of all the threads and where to find everything.
-Melissa & Dan
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anrcandy
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Posted: Friday February 13th, 2009 07:57 pm |
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I get an email that tells me someone has replied thats how I know and then I click on the link in my email and read it.
Maybe I missed some replies sorry. I just would like for someone to direct me to a 1800 number or website where I can freely ask as many questions as I need to ask I dont want to burden people.
But the more I read online the more questions I have and the nutrition appointment just sent the questions over the edge. I am trying to be prepared as possible for this major life change.
any suggestion? if it feels I am repeating questions Sorry. I dont think I am or maybe I am just not getting an answer I can understand.
so thanks for your patience I will re read the replies I have gotten
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Melissa Parish
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| Joined: | Saturday October 22nd, 2005 |
| Location: | Tampa, Florida USA |
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Posted: Friday February 13th, 2009 10:45 pm |
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You're not burdening anyone. We just want to make certain you are getting your answers. A lot of times what happens is if you post the same question in multiple forums on the one message board then it gets confusing and people will think it has been answered (when maybe it hasn't). We want to be sure you are getting the answers and guidance you need.
I think part of it may be that you are posting the question multiple times before anyone can respond. Believe me, this group LOVES to answer questions.
Here's another tip too. If you have a specific topic you want to know more about . . got to the top right where the Search box is and type in keywords. For example, if you want to know about Vitamins . .type in Vitamins and it will bring back links to every post on this message board (in every forum) that has that topic somewhere in it's content. We have also divided the forums up into various sections to cover specific topics but we know there are still going to be lots of questions. Most of the time though, the question has already been addressed multiple times and that gives you answers immediately.
-Melissa & Dan
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anrcandy
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Posted: Monday February 23rd, 2009 12:29 am |
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melissa,
the reason i wanted to know about soy protein was for the beginning when you have to rely on the protein shakes. once i am able to progress back to regular foods i will but as you know that when you first come home you are on clear liquids and then full liquids at at that time i need protein shakes.
secondly thanks for responding my next question is i pushed back my surgery to May 5 so that my neighors could help me with my recovery for the first week now they are telling me that they will not be able to have me spend a week at their house until June
my question is when you come home how dependent will i be on other people can i live at home and just have people com by and check on me or do i actually need to live with someone so that they can actually be there and watch me?
i mean I had a c section and by the time i left the hospital I was sore but i could walk and shower and eat so is it worth me postponing my surgery to spend a week with my neighbors or can i ruff it?
i mean what was your experience is it better to postpone my surgery to june to have someone there or what?
i would hate to postpone my surgery just to have them babysit me when i can make it at home with someone just checking in
on the other hand if it is really worth it i guess i will postone it another month making me have to wait 4 months
secondly i am in touch with overeaters anonymous and will be attending a counseling session this week
i am also reading books on dealing with emotional eating trying to prepare
melissa you say that my train on thinking and attitude about the surgery and food is concerning
what book or something do you reccomend that may help me get a better understanding?
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Melissa Parish
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| Location: | Tampa, Florida USA |
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Posted: Monday February 23rd, 2009 08:06 pm |
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For us, Dan & I had our surgeries the same day. We both had lap RNY and never needed anyone at all to help us at home. Dan actually drove us home from the hospital and we made a stop on the way home. The next day we were at Wal-Mart wandering around and at 6 days post-op we were out on the first of our long bike rides.
Everyone recovers differently and it also depends on the procedure you are having done and your surgeon's skill level. Our surgeon has patients up and walking within 3 hours after surgery and we think this was such a great start. Even if it wasn't long walks, we walked as much and as frequently as possible and felt this made a big difference in the minimal discomfort and the speedy recovery too.
On the protein issues . . as we mentioned in answering one of your other posts, there are lots of great high protein soup recipes on the site as well. Just puree them real well if it's in the first two weeks. For the first week it's just plain broths and clear liquids but after that purees are typically acceptable. These soups are high in protein. We also mentioned the Unjury chicken flavor protein. It's a nice switch from the sweet protein drinks. The soy drinks are much more difficult on WLS patients and aren't the right type of protein.
Hope this helps.
-Melissa & Dan
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anrcandy
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Posted: Monday February 23rd, 2009 10:12 pm |
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everyone says that i should change the way i think about food and what role it will play in my life an not focus what foods i will be giving up and while i do agree what exactly should i be thinking about food ?
how should i think about foods so that i can optimize the 2 year honeymoon and make new healthy food habits i mean i need something concrete can csomething to click in my brain.
people say eat healthy but for someone who hasnt all my life i dont totally understand that i mean its a blanket statement with no reall beginning whole this is about no sugar and carbs and all protein there must be some science or logic on how to make this transition
is there some big secret to this or some trick you all know?
by the way thanks for the last message it was tough but i needed it and I have put the alcohol thing into perspective and guess i can live without though i dont think all alchol is bad i am willing to let it go if it means i can liv healthy
and i will look at the soup recipes
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anrcandy
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Posted: Wednesday February 25th, 2009 06:22 pm |
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everyone says that i should change the way i think about food and what role it will play in my life an not focus what foods i will be giving up and while i do agree what exactly should i be thinking about food ?
how should i think about foods so that i can optimize the 2 year honeymoon and make new healthy food habits i mean i need something concrete can csomething to click in my brain.
people say eat healthy but for someone who hasnt all my life i dont totally understand that i mean its a blanket statement with no reall beginning whole this is about no sugar and carbs and all protein there must be some science or logic on how to make this transition
is there some big secret to this or some trick you all know?
by the way thanks for the last message it was tough but i needed it and I have put the alcohol thing into perspective and guess i can live without though i dont think all alchol is bad i am willing to let it go if it means i can liv healthy
and i will look at the soup recipes
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anrcandy
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Posted: Wednesday February 25th, 2009 06:22 pm |
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everyone says that i should change the way i think about food and what role it will play in my life an not focus what foods i will be giving up and while i do agree what exactly should i be thinking about food ?
how should i think about foods so that i can optimize the 2 year honeymoon and make new healthy food habits i mean i need something concrete can csomething to click in my brain.
people say eat healthy but for someone who hasnt all my life i dont totally understand that i mean its a blanket statement with no reall beginning whole this is about no sugar and carbs and all protein there must be some science or logic on how to make this transition
is there some big secret to this or some trick you all know?
by the way thanks for the last message it was tough but i needed it and I have put the alcohol thing into perspective and guess i can live without though i dont think all alchol is bad i am willing to let it go if it means i can liv healthy
and i will look at the soup recipes
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anrcandy
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Posted: Thursday February 26th, 2009 09:07 pm |
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joesfolks
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Posted: Sunday March 1st, 2009 01:51 am |
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Sorry I can't answer your question about the pm but I did want to mention to you that one of the reasons that we don't do alcohol any longer is that some folks, especially those who are not ready mentally, develop transfer addictions. That is when they can no longer turn to food in an emotional crisis they turn to alcohol. And since we can no longer tolerate alcohol the way we used to it can get to be a real problem. You really don't want to go there. IMO if you don't have your head in the right place yet you might want to consider waiting that extra month. If you do think you are prepared then have at it girl.
Buy the way, the food issues are not that big a deal since you can eat so little at the beginning anyway. Honestly, you are not going to be hungry unless you have head hunger. (You are so used to eating that you miss the physical action of eating even though you are not actually hungry, at least I did.) A couple of ounces of protein drink are going to take care of anything like real hunger. This whole thing is a long learning process. You just have to go through it until you learn what your new body will or won't do. You have a great start on the learning process, but I'm not sure that any of us can really make another person understand exactly what it is like until they experience it for themselves. It took me a long time to come to feel that I would do it all over again, but at 8 months out and 130 lbs down, you bet I would do it again, and again, and again. Wishing you loses.
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anrcandy
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Posted: Tuesday March 3rd, 2009 05:04 pm |
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i did say this in an earlier thread and i will go back and review because you said post were answered and i looked and didnt see see it so that maybe true and thanks for your reply.
secondly in another post you told me that i should chandge my thoughts on food and you were concerned i wa sthinkg aboout the wrong habits alcohol and desserts etc
what is the way we should be thinking of food do u have advice or book suggestions?
lastly i cant resturn all those protein powders evenr with recipt i was told if they are open the can not be returned so i am stuck i will try unjury and profect next and let you know
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anrcandy
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Posted: Monday March 16th, 2009 09:16 pm |
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melissa
i have book marked this page and i still can not get on with ease.everytime i go to login it tells me i am not registered and i have to re register also it i can not post a new topic only reply to messages
can you please make my account where i can post and pm also
thanks
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ErieLady
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Posted: Thursday October 15th, 2009 12:36 am |
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I had my surgery on August 26th. The liquid stage was easy, the pureed stage was He!!. But now I am on the soft foods stage and really can't keep anything down except cheese. Is there any advice? I am getting tired of cheese. I have tried scrambled eggs, chicken salad (I have seen that chicken will take a while to come around), tuna salad. I have even tried lean lunch meats and a cheesy ground beef mixture.
Does anyone have any suggestions, or do I just keep slowly trying to add new foods, and wait for something to finally agree with pouch.
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joesfolks
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Posted: Thursday October 15th, 2009 04:41 am |
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| Be sure that you are eating slowly and chewing very well. You haven't had to chew for a while.
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